Toronto Star comes late to the party

Just after 7 am this morning, I published this about Pussy Riot’s Nadezhda Tolokonnikova, detailing how she may be a Canadian Permanent Resident. I also called upon the Government of Canada to intervene on her behalf. Shortly thereafter, Will at National Newswatch linked to my post, as did another guy you may have heard of.

Early afternoon I was contacted by a National Post journalist who I later spoke with about the story. Shortly thereafter, I updated the post to include the Yahoo! News Canada story that had a photo of Tolokonnikova’s Permanent Resident Card.

I was surprised when, late this evening, the Toronto Star published a story very similar to what was posted on my blog, and those mentioned above, without any acknowledgment of sources. Most people understand the importance of “hat tipping” when using material from other writers’ websites.

Not the Star, I guess.


9 Comments on “Toronto Star comes late to the party”

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  7. Joanna Smith says:

    Hi Lisa,

    I just posted a similar comment on Warren Kinsella’s blog but wanted to write to you too. I fully acknowledge I got this story idea from you, even if, as it turns out, CBC and some other media had a Canadian angle awhile ago. Good for you for noticing the video and getting it translated. It’s fascinating stuff.

    I had originally thought to link to your blog post in my story, but decided against it for the following reasons:

    1. Your post says it was a police interrogation video. It is actually an excerpt taken from a documentary called Provokatory, directed by Arkady Mamontov of Russian state TV channel Rossiya. I was worried that linking to the blog post with erroneous information could lead to more confusion on this front (especially since I had matched and advanced the story without having to rely on her original reporting). I note the National Post made the same error in writing the following: “A Canadian blogger posted footage online of Russian authorities interrogating Nadezhda Tolokonnikova….About one minute into the five-minute video, though, authorities zoom in on…” Again, it was not the authorities. The jailhouse interview was done by Dmitry Toropov, who worked with Mamontov on the film and was the only journalist allowed to interview the women at the detention centre. The detective showing the ID cards is Artem Ranchenkov and it is a different time and place.

    2. There is some confusion over whether Canadian permanent residents have the same access to consular services as Canadian citizens. They don’t, especially if they are in their country of origin, and your original post did not mention this and again, I did not want to further confuse readers.

    3. The simplest explanation: lack of space. I thought about contacting you to get your thoughts as someone who has organized on behalf of Pussy Riot, but given I had very little space in the newspaper to do so, the idea was left on the floor of the cutting room. The National Post had more space and so was able to write a more detailed story with her thoughts on the subject. Good for them.

    I realize there may be a perception the Star was a day late on this, but sometimes that is just how long it takes to get confirmation and context. Trust me, I would have loved to have had something up online much earlier than I did!

    Thanks for the opportunity to comment.

    Regards,

    Joanna Smith
    Ottawa Bureau, Toronto Star

    • Lisa says:

      Hi Joanna,

      I very much appreciate your taking the time to write. And, yes, I learned later this morning that the CBC did indeed post about this last May.

      Just a quick point of clarification: I never wrote in my original post that it was a police interrogation video.

      Have a great weekend,
      Lisa


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